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Deborah Bell's avatar

I agree with you. Yet I also think that the starting point for many people seeking God’s presence is in church. And when they experience watered-down sermons or “Ted Talk” type sermons, plus flat contemporary workshop music, they don’t feel that presence. So I think church needs to look different too, as a starting point.

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Trip Kimball's avatar

It might be as simple as “no application” but it could be several related things—lack of commitment, lack of accountability, lack of discipline, etc.

My concern is the lack of “why” related to both a biblical observation & the application drawn from an observation of a truth.

When we don’t understand why a truth is true, or understand “why” it should be “applied” in my life, then it’s just more biblical info, of which there is a glut of already.

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